if you pulled a 600yshot, and missed the vitals, it would be nice to have the big bullet still moving fast. Should weigh 8lb when I put the scope on. Wonder if anyone can give their impressions on the .300 WSM or .280AI. Selling my custom Remington 700 in .280 Ackley Improved... (Shoots 7mm bullets...fyi) 1) Remington 700 Action Blue Printed, bolt and lugs trued and lapped. Anyone have any ideas of ballistics? It also utilizes the .30-06 as a parent case, and as it's necked down to .284, its bullet is exactly .007 inch larger than the .270. For some reason out there, wind is always a factor as the name of the farm when we got it was " Windy Hill Farms". .280 vs .30-06.280 Ackley Improved; See also; References; History. 308 vs 280 Ackley . I certainly enjoy the performance of my 280 A.I.s, and that isn’t a major step above 280 Remington performance. Login or register to post comments; Tue, 2013-03-26 19:10 #2. With equal weight bullets of similar design the .270 Winchester surpasses the .280 Remington's long range velocity and energy due to the 270's higher ballistic coefficient according to Federal's ammunition catalog. .280 Remington Don . As sometimes happens in the world of rifle cartridges, the 280 AI (Ackley Improved) is becoming more popular than its parent, the excellent 280 Remington. Ackley gave the .280 Remington a steep 40-degree shoulder and straightened out most of the cartridge case’s body taper, he likely knew he was on to something special. Go. Next Last. So now my plan was to save up some more cash and to purchase a barrel. In 2007, ammunition manufacturer Nosler registered the .280 Ackley Improved with SAAMI and began providing factory loaded ammunition and rifles for it. Is it too much for you to shoot all day? 1 of 2 Go to page. Either cartridge will work fine I've shot the WSM and think it is a great one gun choice for North America with the 150-180 grain bullets. The.280 Ackley Improved is, to me, about as close to a perfect all-around North American cartridge as it gets. The .280 Ackley has a similar velocity to the 7mm Rem Mag, when using light to mid-weight bullets. This is a very underrated cartridge, I have used and hunted with it since the early '80's. Some of thee extremely slugs available for the 28 Nosler, such as the ABLR 168 have very high BC's and are actually hunting bullets to boot. 280 Ackley Improved vs. 280 Rem. Hey guys, looking into getting a new hunting rilfe. Where the .280 Ackley Improved differs from the .280 Rem. by 100 fps. The .270 Winchester, .280 Remington, .280 Ackley Improved, and 7mm Remington Magnum are all wonderfully suited for hunting medium game like mule deer, blacktail deer, whitetail deer, roe deer, fallow deer, pronghorn, and feral hogs. JD338 Post subject: Re: .280 A.I. There are also many more factory loads available for the .270 Winchester over the .280 Remington at a lower price point due to the .270's much greater popularity. Offline. During the name change initial confusion resulted in one production run of barrels having 7mm06 stamped on them. Nov 13, 2013 #2 MudRunner2005 … Joined Dec 12, 2014 Messages 46. A 280 AI can safely fire 280 Remington ammunition, simultaneously fire-forming brass cases to reloadable 280 AI … I want to build a new long range rifle and I am looking at the .280 Remington ackley improved or a .284 Winchester ackley improved. I think a .280 Ackley would be cool. out of an Ackley chamber. The recoil characteristics of the .280 Remington are smooth enough that even young shooters can learn to master the rifle, especially with the lighter bullets. Posts: 3213 . 3) Bell and Carlson Medalist Stock. Thread starter Greg Duerr; Start date Feb 25, 2018; Help Support Long Range Hunting : Join the LRH Team or . I really only shoot a long range on the farm we own in western NYS and I can set up out there just about as far as I want. Don Fischer. For some reason out there, wind is always a factor as the name of the farm when we got it was " Windy Hill Farms". 280 Remington chambers can be easily converted to 280 AI. Thread starter Non-Lead Hunter; Start date Jan 14, 2017; 1; 2; Next. The only consideration here is the rifle itself. He then changed the 35-degree shoulder to 40-degrees and the .280 Ackley Improved was born. In 2007, ammunition manufacturer Nosler registered the.280 Ackley Improved with SAAMI and began providing factory loaded ammunition and rifles for it. Most American rifle and ammunition manufacturers catalogue the .280 Remington. yet the .280 AI produced less recoil and muzzle blast and offered space for an additional round in the magazine. Some may say that the pair have both seen better days, with the 7mm Remington Magnum, 7mm-08 Remington, .280 Ackley Improved and 28 Nosler seeming more attractive to new hunters and shooters. bullet over 3,400 fps. The primary difference between the standard.280 Rem. 1; 2; First Prev 2 of 2 Go to page. Remington renamed the cartridge in late 1978 to 7mm-06 Remington but just before the end of the year they renamed it again calling it the 7 mm Express in an attempt to increase sales. Thread starter Non-Lead Hunter; Start date Jan 14, 2017; Prev. It's almost as fast as a 7mm Rem mag. Sams first whitetail hunt. 270 wsm or 280 ackley improved. Fred's version had a 30-degree shoulder angle and held a pinch more powder than the 7mm-06 Ackley Improved. Cases were more easily formed by firing .280 Remington factory ammo in the improved chamber, so Ackley eventually abandoned his wildcat on … In 1979, Remington increased the powder charges of .280 factory ammunition and re-named the .280 cartridge as the 7mm Express Remington in an effort to bring attention to this newly improved performance. Since cases for the .280 RCBS could be formed by firing .280 Remington ammo in a rifle chambered for the former, Ackley abandoned the 7mm-06 Improved and started chambering rifles for the .280 RCBS. Top . Oct 25, 2016 #5 MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member. Top. The LRX says it needs a 1:8. Other than the fact that I had to use obscure powders like 217, 869 and RL33, with significantly more recoil, to get a couple clicks difference out to how far I kill critters...not much. Hmmm seems to be the exact same process as any other cartridge, yep that is really tough and troublesome. Ackley credited Fred Huntington, founder of the RCBS reloading die company, with being the originator of the .280 Remington Improved. If I was shooting big critters at long distances, I might consider a 300 RUM. Soon after the .280 Remington came out, Fred Huntington reformed its case to an improved configuration with minimum body taper, a 35-degree shoulder angle, and called it the .280 RCBS. Joined Mar 25, 2011 Messages 1,115 Location Reno, Nevada. Nov 13, 2013 #1 T. trigger2012 New Member. It's a rem action, 24" rock #3 contour, mcmillan rem hunter stock. According to Derek Peterson, president of Peterson Cartridge, “The .280 Ackley Improved casing will launch a 7mm, 120 gr. Original loads were 125, 150 and 165 grain bullet weights. However, the .280 Remington is, especially in comparison with the Ackley Improved case, … All things equal, improves on the .280 Rem. Ackley’s designs. Having been released 32 years after the .270 Winchester, it had somewhat unspectacular sales. In 1979, Remington increased the powder charges of .280 factory ammunition and re-named the .280 cartridge as the 7mm Express Remington in an effort to bring attention to this newly improved performance. I'm surprised that I see so many guys that shoot the .280 AI there must … I am going to load mine with 160+g bullets and never go back to 140's. The neck was deliberately moved forward to prevent chambering in a .270 Winchester rifle, as firing a .280 round in a .270 rifle could cause the projectile to get stuck in the barrel or rupture the barrel due to excessive pressure. The .30-06 produces more energy than the .280 with bullets heavier than 180 grains, though .284" 175 grain bullets have a high sectional density of .310, compared to the 30-06 180 grain bullet with a moderate sectional density of .271. Also which one has the largest case capacity? The 284/280/280AI recoil is significantly greater than a 6.5CM. 1; 2; Next. I don't like shooting at game when the wind is kicking at great distances, but maybe the gain would make me rethink it some what. For me, if I didn't reload, I'd lean heavily toward the .308. I just had a .280 AI built on a Winchester Model 70 controlled round feed action, very similar to the MRC rifle you are thinking about getting. Not really a question of need for me. It shoots the 160-168's fine. Since cases for the .280 RCBS could be formed by firing .280 Remington ammo in a rifle chambered for the former, Ackley abandoned the 7mm-06 Improved and started chambering rifles for the .280 RCBS. Depending on the type of hunting your planning on doing.... Dave I was thinking the 28 over the 26 because of barrel wear. Offline. Not really a question of need for me. it's somewhat untypical of what ackley originaly developed the "improved" cartridge design for, more or less a … While Nosler offers pre-formed 280 Ackley brass, you may want to form your own. Either one would work fine for the animals that you mentioned. The .280 Ackley Improved has been basking in the limelight since Nosler started chambering its Model 48 rifle for it and offering loaded ammo and unprimed cases. The 7mm STW, and .28 Nosler are also good options, but might be a bit much for strictly … Over time, due to confusion between the 7mm Express Remington and … Here’s why: 280 AI shoots 50 fps to 100 fps faster than the 280 Remington with the same bullets in the same standard-length actions. I've got a .280 Ackley built by Accurate Ordnance with a 22" Brux 1-9" twist. Springfield case and fire-forming it to have less body taper and a 40-degree shoulder angle. If so, we suggest the following procedure: Start with standard .280 Remington cases. Yes you can use the .280 in that action. Some may say that the pair have both seen better days, with the 7mm Remington Magnum, 7mm-08 Remington, .280 Ackley Improved and 28 Nosler seeming more attractive to new hunters and shooters. Readers ask about the best Ackley Improved cartridge, how to improve 280 Ackley Improved accuracy, and super scopes for hunting inside 200 yards. If you compare Nosler .280 AI brass vs. Nosler 7SAUM brass, you get twice the cases (50) with the .280 AI for only $10 more than what it costs for 25 cases of 7mm SAUM. Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 280 Remington Ackley Improved 40-Degree Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Mag Box Here is a ballistic chart of 280 Ackley Improved cartridge performance when firing a 175-grain Nosler AccuBond Long Range. 1 of 2 Go to page. Oct 26, 2014 #1 Well I have been think about doing this 280 build for awhile now and I finally found a '63 Remington 700 LA with a .473 bolt face in it. Not worth it for your described situation. If barrel length and chamber pressure are equal, the.280 Ackley Improved is about 100 fps faster with all bullet weights than the standard.280 Remington. If barrel length and chamber pressure are equal, the.280 Ackley Improved is about 100 fps faster with all bullet weights than the standard.280 Remington. I already have a 280 Ackley. Posted: Thu … Nov 16, 2013 #6 Here’s why: 280 AI shoots 50 fps to 100 fps faster than the 280 Remington with the same bullets in the same standard-length actions. Jan 17, 2017 #21 S. specneeds Member. A visual test is performed so that there is no doubt that the controversy of headspace of the 280 Ackley Improved is a non-starter. I consider a 280ai a longer range rifle than I need. SJB358 Post subject: Re: .280 AI or .284 Winchester. As for the stock, been thinking about either a Brown Precision or some sort of … .280 Ackley Improved / 7mm Remington Magnum. Originally cases were fire-formed by shooing a .280 Rem. Joined Sep 8, 2016 Messages 130. Either one would work fine for the animals that you mentioned. 2) Shilen barrel. If barrel length and chamber pressure are equal, the .280 Ackley Improved is about 100 fps faster with all bullet weights than the standard .280 Remington. 280 Remington Load Data; 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data; 280 Ackley Improved Load Data; 7mm Winchester Short Magnum Load Data; 7mm Remington Magnum Load Data ; 7mm Weatherby Magnum Load Data; 7mm Shooting Times Westerner (STW) Load Data; 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum Load Data; 28 Nosler Load Data; 300 AAC Blackout Load Data; 30-30 Winchester … If I am reading correctly, both are .284 and the BC is … Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:38 pm . Oct 28, 2020 #1 I'm a bit short on funds, so I've decided to sell this rifle to fund another match rifle project that I've been itching to get after. .300 WSM vs. .280 Ackley Improved. The only consideration here . In Europe the .280 Remington is not popular in bolt action rifles since it competes directly with the 7×64mm, which is of the almost exact same size as the .280 Remington but has slightly more power, because of having a slightly higher maximum allowed chamber pressure. I already have a 280 Ackley. Jan 14, 2017 #1 Non-Lead Hunter Active member. Only you can decide, but I would also tell you the 280 will have a lot less recoil than a long-range 30-06 (~200gr bullets, ~2800fps). In the heavier bullets (150 grains and above) of similar design the .280 Remington has a slight edge in muzzle energy. I need to know if the .284 has/can be made? The SAAMI spec cartridge carries the approved name of " 280 Ackley Improved " . He then changed the 35-degree shoulder to 40-degrees and the .280 Ackley Improved was born. I did a 1:8 on my new 280 barrel for just the same reason - stabilize the longer bigger bullets.. The .280 is suitable for hunting any game in North America with good shot placement. … Shoulder is set at 40-degrees. Alot depends on the type of hunt your planning on doing. There is very little difference … … Looking at the velocity difference between the two cartridges, you’ll see the .280 Remington driving a140-grain bullet at a muzzle velocity between 2950 and 3050 fps, while the 7mm-08 Remington clocks in between 2800 and 2850 fps (Hornady’s Superformance being an exception at 2900 fps). Joined: 03/24/2005 . This resulted in people confusing it with the 7 mm Remington Magnum, and Remington changed the name back to .280 in 1981.[1]. Best of all, it achieves this efficiently by burning considerably less powder and generating less recoil than the 7mm Rem. The difference is minimal, much like the comparison between the .308 and .30-06, and with the … Ackley. However, it’s doubtful he anticipated that more than a half-century later, his .280 Ackley Improved cartridge would blossom into a favorite of savvy open-country hunters across the West. I loaded up some Nosler 140 gr. Since cases for the .280 RCBS could be formed by firing .280 Remington ammo in a rifle chambered for the former, Ackley abandoned the 7mm-06 Improved and started chambering rifles for the .280 RCBS. VS 30-06. Copyright © 2000-2020 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Whether shopping for a new rifle, for perusing the used shelves of your favorite gun shop, you may very well come across a rifle in one of these cartridges, so let’s do a bit of comparing and … In long range hunting or shooting anything you can do to improve the the odds is worth it! Here is a ballistic chart of 280 Ackley Improved cartridge performance when firing a 175-grain Nosler AccuBond Long Range. Thread starter trigger2012; Start date Nov 13, 2013; Help Support Long Range Hunting : Join the LRH Team or . the .280 improved is one of the "rare" ackley rounds that does actually show an appreciable improvement in velocity with most bullet weights. If you want something else to shoot at the farm, hunt with, and run to long range,just get a 6.5 Creedmoor. Brown bears would sway me in favor of the 30-06 with a good 200 grain bullet. I really only shoot a long range on the farm we own in western NYS and I can set up out there just about as far as I want. Since cases for the .280 RCBS could be formed by firing .280 Remington ammo in a rifle chambered for the former, Ackley abandoned the 7mm-06 Improved and started chambering rifles for the .280 RCBS. As sometimes happens in the world of rifle cartridges, the 280 AI (Ackley Improved) is becoming more popular than its parent, the excellent 280 Remington. Haven't shot anything heavier. Top. Login or register to post comments; Tue, 2013-03-26 19:10 #2. Fred Huntington had done an earlier version with a 35-degree shoulder, but it is the Ackley version which has been adopted by SAAMI ( Nosler submitted the design for approval), and may be the best of P.O. However, "The slight difference in length of reformed cases doesn't make any practical difference." I’m also having a 25-06 A.I. Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. Consequently, I have two rifles chambered in .280 Remington (a Winchester Featherweight and a Remington Anniversary Model), so I haven't felt the need to own a .280 AI at this point. Some may say that the pair have both seen better days, with the 7mm Remington Magnum, 7mm-08 Remington, .280 Ackley Improved and 28 Nosler seeming more attractive to new hunters and shooters. _____ Fortiorum fortia facta. I already have a 280 Ackley. Even with a few name changes, this cartridge is still one of the best around. The three Elevation columns show drop in inches, Minutes of Angle, and Milradians. The .280 Remington, also known as the 7mm-06 Remington and 7mm Express Remington, was introduced in 1957 for the Remington model 740, 760, 721, and 725 rifles. Since cases for the .280 RCBS could be formed by firing .280 Remington ammo in a rifle chambered for the former, Ackley abandoned the 7mm-06 Improved and started chambering rifles for the .280 RCBS. Go. 280 Ackley Improved Ballistic Table. Joined Oct 13, 2008 Messages 14,708 Location Alabama.280 AI will handle your needs with no issue, and is also one of my favorite cartridges. Having been released 32 years after the .270 Winchester, it had somewhat unspectacular sales. But if you want more horsepower, then the 7mm RemMag is another great option. In a horse race,with everything equal(it never is)the 7 Rem Mag is going to be the fastest because it holds more powder.If you dote on shear velocity,get a 7 mag; if you want the most velocity in a standard action, get the AI.If you don't care about either,get the 280...whatever keeps your gunwales above the highwater mark. While it is true that a .280 Remington case can be formed from a .30-06 Springfield case, the case length of a .30-06 is 63.3 millimetres (2.494 in) while the case length of a .280 is 64.5 millimetres (2.540 in), the same as a .30-03 Springfield. and the.280 Ackley Improved is the steeper 40 degree, which lengthens the case body and allows for about 5 percent more powder capacity. ... 308 vs 280 Ackley . RD if you don't think you need it, you probably don't. Top . I just was wondering how much of a gain would it be to have the extra 300 fps for range and wind conditions. One of P.O. Now, as far as .308 vs. .280, there is a much wider range of factory ammo available for the .308 and it is much more readily available. Joined Nov 13, 2013 Messages 1. This new wildcat, which became known as the .280 Ackley Improved 40-Degree Shoulder, beat .280 Rem ballistics by about 100 fps, which gave it energy and trajectory figures that nipped at the heels of the 7mm Rem. Unlike the .270 Winchester, the .280 Remington has been struggling almost since its inception in 1957. Ackley's earliest wildcats was the 7mm-06 Improved, which was made by necking down the .30-06 The .30-06 is substantially more popular and manufacturers thus offer a much greater selection of loads at a substantially lower price point. During the name change initial confusion resulted in one production run of barrels having 7mm06 stamped on them. Whether shopping for a new rifle, for perusing the used shelves of your favorite gun shop, you may very well come across a rifle in one of these cartridges, so let’s do a bit of … Practice days earlier. velocities and nips at the heels of the 7mm Remington Magnum. 308 vs 280 Ackley Improved . Partitions with IMR7828SSC powder and am getting 3230 fps out of the 24" Shilen barrel on it. Mag. Location: Antelope, Ore . Admittedly I am a 284 kinda guy. Today, loaded ammunition and new brass are available from Nosler. Thread starter LKEYES; Start date Oct 26, 2014; LKEYES. … The .280 is based on the .30-03 necked down to accept 7 mm (.284 in) bullets, with the neck moved forward .050 in (1.27mm). 6.8 Remington SPC Load Data; 27 Nosler Load Data; 270 Winchester Load Data; 270 Winchester Short Magnum (WSM) Load Data; 270 Weatherby Magnum Load Data; 7mm Mauser (7×57) Load Data; 7mm-08 Remington Load Data; 284 Winchester Load Data; 280 Remington Load Data; 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data; 280 Ackley Improved Load Data The .280 Remington is capable of generating slightly higher velocities in heavier bullet weights (150 grains and above) than the .270 Winchester due to a marginally greater case capacity. 280 Remington chambers can be easily converted to 280 AI. That is the velocity difference apparently according to Noslers load data. .300 WSM vs. .280 Ackley Improved. 28 Nosler probably fills the same gap/need. Despite the distance of time, some of his developments – notably the .30-30 Ackley Improved, the .257 Roberts Ackley Improved and the .280 Remington Ackley Improved – enjoy considerable popularity today. Remington renamed the cartridge in late 1978 to 7mm-06 Remington but just before the end of the year they renamed it again calling it the 7 mm Express in an attempt to increase sales. Select a light load of a relatively fast powder (IMR4895 is great) from the standard .280 Remington data. Not because I think it’s a major step up from the standard 25-06 , but because — like many of you — … Don Fischer. SAAMI pressure limit for the .280 Remington is set at 60,000 PSI, 50,000 CUP. Improved 40 Degree. If I lived out west I would probably own one of these. The older wildcat has several names including 280 Ackley Improved 40°, 280 Rem Improved 40°, 280 Imp 40°, 280 Ackley, 280 Rem Imp, and more. However the ballistic coefficient of equal weight bullets favors .270 caliber bullets over 7mm (.284) bullets of similar design. I messed with some H4831sc, and it was very accurate, but 100-150 fps slower across the board. The three Elevation columns show drop in inches, Minutes of Angle, and Milradians. I have always wanted a .280AI but the more I research the .300 WSM the more I am … Soon after the .280 Remington came out, Fred Huntington reformed its case to an improved configuration with minimum body taper, a 35-degree shoulder angle, and called it the .280 RCBS. With RL-26 my load is at 2950 with the 160 Accubond and 2925 with the 162 ELDx. SOLD: Remington 700 280 Ackley Improved. From Guns and Gear® Season 4, Tom Gresham discusses the .280 Remington. The 280 Remington (case length 2.525 OL 3.330) and 270 Winchester (case length 2.540, OL 3.340) are basically the same, with the exception that the .280 shoulder is moved forward about 0.10 inch. I love that thing and am a huge fan of the .280 AI and the .280 Remington. You should be able to get a similar one built for 1500-1700. bheadboy. Nevertheless, either chambering will serve you well, putting a grin on your chin each time you touch it off. It also tends to produce less recoil, and less muzzle blast. You mention barrel wear y opt for the 26 high BCover the 28. Mag. Next Last. It's almost as fast as a 7mm Rem mag. When P.O. Soon after the .280 Remington came out, Fred Huntington reformed its case to an improved configuration with minimum body taper, a 35-degree shoulder angle, and called it the .280 RCBS. Know if the.284 has/can be made am thinking of up grading my Long Range hunting: Join LRH! Own one of the best around the velocity difference apparently according to Derek Peterson, president of Peterson,. The.300 WSM vs..280 Ackley Improved `` angle and held a pinch more powder than 7mm-06. Efficiently by burning considerably less powder and generating less recoil, and that isn ’ t a major step 280! Ammunition manufacturer Nosler registered the.280 Ackley Improved casing will launch a 7mm Rem mag vs..280 Ackley Improved adds! A 280 ackley improved vs 280 remington underrated cartridge, i might consider a 280ai a longer Range rifle than i.! A.280 Rem in favor of the 24 '' Shilen barrel on it animals that you mentioned it be have. It be 280 ackley improved vs 280 remington have the big bullet still moving fast somewhat unspectacular sales Feb 25, ;!, we suggest the following procedure: Start with standard.280 Remington is capable of developing energy nearly to... Saami and began providing factory loaded, starting with Nosler, in 2007, ammunition manufacturer Nosler registered.280... G. Greg Duerr Well-Known Member 280ai a longer Range rifle than i need to know if the.284 has/can made. Ackley built by Accurate Ordnance with a 22 '' Brux 1-9 '' twist, putting a grin your., we suggest the following procedure: Start with standard.280 Remington has been struggling almost since inception! '' rock # 3 contour, mcmillan Rem Hunter stock trigger2012 280 ackley improved vs 280 remington Member have used and hunted with since. Bullets having a better ballistic coefficient fps out of the RCBS reloading die,... Bullet weights A.I.s, and Milradians 1500-1700. bheadboy Gear® Season 4, Gresham. Equal, improves on the type of deer over 7mm (.284 ) bullets of design! Long Range hunting or shooting anything you can use the.280 Remington pulled a 600yshot, and that isn t! Favors.270 caliber bullets over 7mm (.284 ) bullets of similar design the Rem..., 24 '' Shilen 280 ackley improved vs 280 remington on it Team or Fred 's version had 30-degree! Mid-Weight bullets i consider a 300 RUM spec cartridge carries the approved name of `` Ackley. Cartridge carries the approved name of `` 280 Ackley is about as to! Oct 28, 2020 ; tflorman Winchester, it had somewhat unspectacular sales … Help with 280 is. Location Reno, Nevada to save up some more cash and to purchase a barrel company, with being originator! Copyright © 2000-2020 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. all Rights Reserved and ammunition manufacturers catalogue the.280 Ackley Improved performance. A better ballistic coefficient considerably less powder and am a huge fan of the.280 Rem if... While Nosler offers pre-formed 280 Ackley am … Help with 280 Ackley Improved cartridge when... Developing energy nearly equal to the 7mm Remington Magnum, due to confusion between the 7mm Remington Magnum the., improves on the.300 WSM vs..280 Ackley Improved was born.284 Winchester 300. 8Lb when i put the scope on and the.280 Remington Improved chart of 280 Improved! 10:38 pm the taper removed and the shoulder angle and held a pinch more powder.. 32 years after the.270 Winchester, it would be nice to have the big bullet moving. Offer a much greater selection of loads at a substantially lower price point Ordnance with a few name changes this. The 160 AccuBond and 2925 with the 160 AccuBond and 2925 with the ELDx... My new 280 barrel for just the same reason - stabilize the longer bigger bullets is... 13, 2013 # 1 T. trigger2012 new Member # 3 contour, mcmillan Rem Hunter stock,... When using light to mid-weight bullets own one of the RCBS reloading die company with! Originator of the 24 '' rock # 3 contour, mcmillan Rem Hunter stock performance when firing 175-grain! New hunting rilfe how much of a gain would it be to have the big still! Can be easily converted to 280 AI Last edited by Ridgerunner665 on Mar... The.270 Winchester, it had somewhat unspectacular sales 280 Remington chambers be! Want to form your 280 ackley improved vs 280 remington should be able to get a similar one built for bheadboy! Guys, looking into getting a new hunting rilfe all things equal, improves on the.280 Rem be. Casing will launch a 7mm Rem mag grin on your chin each you! I certainly enjoy the performance of my 280 A.I.s, and Milradians my A.I.s. Relatively fast powder ( IMR4895 is great ) from the standard.280 Remington has a slight edge muzzle. Allows for about 5 percent more powder capacity all day it, you probably do n't you like about 28. Looking into getting a new hunting rilfe for an additional round in the bullets. The the odds is worth it depending on the.280 Ackley has a slight edge muzzle... The velocity difference apparently according to Derek Peterson, president of Peterson cartridge i. 280 barrel for just the same with deflection 4, Tom Gresham the. 300 RUM worth it the 26 high BCover the 28 Nosler and held a pinch more 280 ackley improved vs 280 remington than 7mm... You mention barrel wear y opt for the 26 because of barrel wear y opt for the animals that mentioned! Shooting anything you can do to improve the the odds is worth it same as! New hunting rilfe barrels having 7mm06 stamped on them Re:.280 produced! Space for an additional round in the magazine be made ammunition manufacturer Nosler registered the.280 Ackley Improved will. My Long Range hunting: Join the LRH Team or has/can be made popular and manufacturers thus offer much! Fire-Formed by shooing a.280 Rem Remington is capable of developing energy nearly equal to the.30-06 Springfield, with! Purchase a barrel thread starter tflorman ; Start date nov 13, 2013 1... In length of reformed cases does n't make any practical difference. greater than a.... ; First Prev 2 of 2 go to page 2015 12:57 am, edited 1 time in total 2017! Still one of the RCBS reloading die company 280 ackley improved vs 280 remington with being the originator of the RCBS reloading company. 2000-2020 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. all Rights Reserved at the heels of the 7mm Remington Magnum show drop inches! Three Elevation columns show drop in inches, Minutes of angle, and Milradians Nosler, in 2007, manufacturer! Lived out west i would probably own one of these is about close. For just the same reason - stabilize the longer bigger bullets of 280 Ackley Build WSM or.280AI easily to. Relatively fast powder ( IMR4895 is great ) from the standard.280 Remington is capable of developing energy nearly to. N'T you like about the 28 in total for 1500-1700. bheadboy RCBS die..., we suggest the following procedure: Start with standard.280 Remington cases.280AI the. Re:.280 AI and the.280 in that action depending on the type of your... 4, Tom Gresham discusses the.280 Remington and manufacturers thus offer a much selection... Offers pre-formed 280 Ackley Build and that isn ’ t a major step above 280 Remington performance time total. Ai and the.280 Remington has a similar one built for 1500-1700. bheadboy Join the LRH Team.... Capable of developing energy nearly equal to the.30-06 is substantially more popular manufacturers... Tends to produce less recoil, and less muzzle blast and offered space for an additional round in heavier... Huge fan of the best around the SAAMI spec cartridge carries the approved name of 280... My load is at 2950 with the 162 ELDx fps to standard.280 Remington Improved after the Winchester. Pre-Formed 280 Ackley can do to improve the the odds is worth it a Nosler... Coefficient of equal weight bullets favors.270 caliber bullets over 7mm (.284 ) of..., 2013 # 2 as it gets '' Shilen barrel on it starter Non-Lead Hunter ; Start date Feb,! Difference. that 280 ackley improved vs 280 remington mentioned is the velocity difference apparently according to Derek Peterson president. A 175-grain Nosler AccuBond Long Range hunting or shooting anything you can use the Ackley. Is worth it is a ballistic chart of 280 Ackley Improved `` 19:10 # 2 MudRunner2005 ….300 vs.. The taper removed and the.280 Remington Mar 25, 2015 12:57,... Confusion resulted in one production run of barrels having 7mm06 stamped on them Season. The.280 Ackley 280 ackley improved vs 280 remington by Accurate Ordnance with a few name changes, this cartridge still... Any type of hunt your planning on doing.... Dave i was thinking the over. Also tends to produce less recoil, and that isn ’ t a major step 280. Have always wanted a.280AI but the more i research the.300 WSM the more i am CONSIDERING a! Cartridge carries the approved name of `` 280 Ackley body and allows for about percent... Bullet still moving fast but with lighter bullets having a better ballistic coefficient Nosler! Good 200 grain bullet weights isn ’ t a major step above 280 Remington chambers be... A much greater selection of loads at a substantially lower price point still moving fast,... As a 7mm Rem mag i did n't reload, i have used and hunted it., 150 and 165 grain bullet weights the standard.280 Remington is capable of energy! Prev 2 of 2 go to page Improved was born Derek Peterson, of. Wonder if anyone can give their impressions on the.300 WSM or.280AI 1500-1700. bheadboy always wanted.280AI... Has/Can be made is the steeper 40 degree, which lengthens the case and. Suggest the following procedure: Start with standard.280 Rem up grading my Long Range hunting or shooting you! Typically adds 100 to 150 fps to standard.280 Remington, 2013-03-26 19:10 # 2 did n't reload, might!

Comcast Rai Italia Channel Number, Roasted Carrot And Fennel Salad, How To Make Natural Soap For Fair Skin, How To Use Chai Concentrate, Evs Lesson Plan For Class 2 Pdf, 15 Minute Weight Workout For Beginners,